Showing posts with label discovery bay. Show all posts
Showing posts with label discovery bay. Show all posts

September 6, 2025

Disneyland's Unbuilt Discovery Bay Comes to Life!

Did you know you don't have to go all the way to Disneyland Paris to see portions of Tony Baxter's unbuilt Discovery Bay? Of course, this master Imagineer slid some of the land into the French park, but as you can see, it also exists somewhere else. Above is a photograph and below is the concept art.


Ok, ok. It's AI generated. But look at what could be! Below, is an even better image to let you grieve even more about what the Walt Disney Company passed on decades ago. Imagineering can build wonders - even from original ideas- when given the chance. 

AI "reality"above, and the original Disneyland concept art below.

Doesn't it make you with the Island at the Top of the World film was a huge hit instead of a bomb? This incredible land would have nestled itself so well between Fantasyland and Frontierland with its San Francisco Barbary Coast theme! If you want to read about why this concept never made it off the boards and the jealousy that runs within the halls of Imagineering, take a look at this post.

January 1, 2023

One Little Spark for 2023!

Happy New Year! Here's a great attraction poster for  the unbuilt Spark Gap coaster for Discoveryland at Disneyland Paris. What, was this really for Disneyland Paris, you say? If you're like me, you were certainly convinced for many years that this was actually only set as a part of Discovery Bay, Imagineer Tony Baxter's legendary land. The one that never made it past the drawing boards for Disneyland. Good ideas never die they say. (I still say "One Little Spark" belongs to Figment and Dreamfinder, though.)

What about for you? What good ideas have you had that should be coming back into play for the new year? I'm rethinking my life in several areas- spiritual, physical, and more. It's time for one little spark of inspiration. I'm asking God to reveal himself in fresh ways this year and to show me what He wants from me in this next season of life. Whatever that may be, I know it will be an adventure in living, full of the unexpected. 

What will be unexpected in the Disney world of things? An early opening for Tron Lightcycle Run at the Magic Kingdom? A completion ahead of time for Moana's Journey of Water? I'd certainly like to see Disney suits come up with something to go toe to toe with Universal's Epic Universe.  I'm sure the Imagineers have some great ideas, but I do not trust the suits anymore. I'd be happy to be surprised, though. I'm sure you would as well! Regardless, may your new year be blessed as you walk out your life. I pray it is one where you grow closer to the one and only loving God, the Immortal Eternal Being who gives us life through Jesus Christ. 

(Art copyright The Walt Disney Company.)

June 10, 2022

Another Look at Disneyland's Unbuilt Discovery Bay

Every few years or so, it seems as if unseen concept art surfaces for Disneyland's unbuilt and abandoned concept Discovery Bay. Today, I present one more. Imagineer Tony Baxter (don't you wish he'd write a book?!?) worked with some of the company's best and brightest to get it just right. Here, this concept art by Harper Goff gives us a great picture of what the future should have held.

 In the area now occupied by Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge, this ambitious project would have hosted a variety of attractions, shops and great restaurants that would have bridged the theme between Fantasyland and Frontierland. A San Francisco of the Golden Age (think some steam punk here) would house a major E Ticket attraction based on the film Island at the Top of the World while another drew guests in featuring a little dragon friend of a blustering and lovable professor type character. Does this sound like Figment and Dreamfinder? Yes, it does- and find out more about the project here

I won't spill all the beans, but beyond this one article, there's many others on the blog that will help you fill in the picture. It's definitely worth your time! But be forewarned- it may make you wish that Discovery Bay was built instead! 

(Art copyright The Walt Disney Company.)

February 6, 2022

Concept Art for Unbuilt Dumbo’s Circusland

Thanks to "mharrington" over at the WDWMagic Boards, we have a piece of concept art for a Pinocchio attraction once planned for an unbuilt Disneyland expansion: Dumbo's Circusland. We know it is not the Pinocchio's Daring Journey that came to both Tokyo Disneyland and California in 1983, or do we? Does anyone have any more information on this? 

Man, I wish there was a book written by legendary Imagineer Tony Baxter, don't you? The stories he could tell about Discovery Bay at Disneyland and the unbuilt Western River Expedition at Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom.

(Art copyright The Walt Disney Company.)

April 1, 2021

No Fooling! Disneyland's Unbuilt Discovery Bay As You've Never Seen It

Discovery Bay. The name either brings about a collective "That would have been great!" or a blank stare as newer Disney park fans don't know about this proposed but never built land for Disneyland. The land once designed by Tony Baxter and the Imagineers for the northern area of the park is now occupied by Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge.  The project is now Disney legend and lore along the lines of Walt Disney World's Western River Expedition and Thunder Mesa complex at the Magic Kingdom

What would this imaginative land hold? Picture a Barbary Coast San Francisco bridging the thematic gap between Fantasyland and Frontierland. The line up of attractions included an Island at the Top of the World water based attraction, a thrilling roller coaster, an innovative shooting gallery, and undersea restaurant, and - get ready for this - an attraction that had a host and friend very similar to Journey into Imagination's Dreamfinder and Figment. No fooling!

The whole story and more concept art can be found at this post. And that's not the only one here about Discovery Bay. There's more art to be unearthed here. Last count, I recall writing twelve more articles as I continued to discover more concept art and ideas for this amazing never built location!

(Art copyright The Walt Disney Company.)

January 19, 2021

My Favorite Disney Park Photos: A Stunning Discoveryland at Disneyland Paris

Disneyland Paris may just be the most beautiful castle park in Disney's kingdoms! I submit to you this photograph from our first visit to the Parisian theme park. You are looking at Discoveryland, the French park's version of Tomorrowland. Themed to Jules Verne and the great  visionaries of the past, it has the best vision of Space Mountain you'll find among an eclectic array of attractions. But I've written on that many times...

Do you see shades of Imagineer Tony Baxter's sadly aborted Disneyland project, Discovery Bay here? I sure do! Many of the concepts for that expansion made their way into this park. This place really is The Theme Park as Art! Frontierland is best realized here, Fantasyland seems even more magical, and Adventureland boasts the most unique themes ever. The opening act of Main Street U.S.A. stuns with the most elaborate version ever, making Florida's Magic Kingdom's already lovely street seem somewhat lacking in charm by comparison. Have to see it for yourself.

Let me say this photo is 100% unretouched! It was a gorgeous summer day in France, flowers blooming and a sky as blue as could be. Having seen this park in three different seasons over a couple of decades, from a photographer's eye, this trip was hard to beat. (I know there's a trip report or two somewhere on the blog!)

Just as Disneyland Paris has a connection to Discovery Bay, did you know Discovery Bay also has a connection to EPCOT Center's original and amazing Journey Into Imagination? Check this out!

(Photograph copyright Mark Taft.)

May 29, 2020

Dinosaurs Take Over the Disney Parks!

Walt Disney was a man fascinated by the future, but he was also passionate about what happened prior to his lifetime. It seems there wasn't a single area of popular thought and study in which Walt would choose to remain ignorant. If he was uninformed, it seemed Walt always recruited the help of the experts. He was wise but also shrewd. He had the pulse of the paying public, their tastes and habits, always at the forefront of his mind when planning his films and theme parks.


Prehistoric times certainly captured his vivid imagination. From Fantasia to the Toy Story series and Dinosaur, Disney films on the subject were made with or without Walt at the helm.





The three shots above are official Disney photographs.


The same holds true for the theme parks. In each one, dinosaurs are found in various shapes, sizes, and conditions. Let's take a look back into our own Time Machine and travel from coast to coast and beyond...

1964 New York World's Fair




This one started it all. Sure, dinosaurs had been a staple of Disney films, but when it was time for the Imagineers to bring them to life in themed environments, they did so in thrilling ways.

After being turned down by General Motors, Walt was sent to the competition to create a moving exhibition for the Ford Motor Company. Walt really wanted a big presence at the World's Fair- and with it the opportunity to showcase the Imagineers art, all the while testing the concept of a new Disneyland and how it would appeal to East Coast audiences.



The beginning of the journey in Ford vehicles Magic Skyway was through a primeval forest, complete with moving, breathing, roaring dinosaurs. Guests responded enthusiastically to the Disney attractions which encouraged the Imagineers to look for additional places to let these prehistoric beasts roam.


You could say the multiple Disney shows, It's A Small World, Progressland (Carousel of Progress), Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln, and Magic Skyway, were the hit of the exhibition! When the Fair closed, plans were put into place to transfer the attractions to Disneyland. As for the Magic Skyway, the cars themselves didn't survive the change in locale, but the prehistoric creatures soon found a new home in Anaheim.

Disneyland

This 1966 addition to the park brought primeval life forms to the Grand Canyon diorama. Now, guests aboard the Santa Fe & Disneyland Railroad would end their grand circle tour of the park with a view of the peaceful Grand Canyon of today and then view Walt's dinos in all their glory. 




Another official photo.


Be warned, however, that riders viewing the trains as strictly transportation may miss the creatures if they board at Main Street without completing the entire tour.







A bit of rare Imagineering art.


Different poster, but the dinos were just beyond this tranquil scene!

Guests boarding trains for a different journey also encounter a dinosaur, albeit a passive one. Over in Frontierland, the thrilling ride on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad concludes with a quick burst through a dinosaur! Sun-bleached bones make a perfect tunnel for the trains of the gold filled mountain to rush through.

This INCREDIBLE photo from Mint Crocodile.
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At Disneyland, some dinos- and their homes- never got off the drawing boards. Tony Baxter's beautifully planned Discovery Bay included a prehistoric journey all its own. The model below even sports a brontosaurus bathing in the river on the edge of town.

Discovery Bay reached the end of its era when Disney leadership decided the Island at the Top of the World movie, the basis for a main attraction in the land, became a box office flop. Without a recognizable flagship draw,the beautifully designed expansion faded away only to survive in Disney lore and in the hearts of passionate fans.

Disney's California Adventure

Anaheim's second Disney park had its own primeval creature once upon a time. But like most of the best design elements for this park, the newest Disney dino was reserved for enhancing the shops contained within it. Dinosaur Jacks' Sunglass Shack, the pink monstrosity in Paradise Pier's Route 66 area, housed a small and limited selection of sunglasses and various sundries. It was the one distinguishing piece of California Crazy architecture to be found in the undernourished park.

Like much of California Adventure, Jack underwent his own transformation as the feminine pink and yellow tones gave way to a more masculine shade of green.

Eventually, the suits and Imagineers decided to restart the entire park with a one billion dollar makeover of its own. Dinosaur Jack faced extinction- and ultimately became a casualty of the new plans- unless Jack has his own tribute as part of Carsland's buttes and canyons.


Walt Disney World: Magic Kingdom
Like its older sibling on the West Coast, Florida's Magic Kingdom had its own grand circle tour on the rails but without the thrilling climax of Disneyland's Grand Canyon and Primeval World Diorama. The dinosaur was to be found on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, yet in its no skin and bones only form.

My photo of the Timekeeper poster.

Once upon a time, a dinosaur was also found on the now extinct Timekeeper attraction in Tomorrowland. The filmed show had a very brief shot of a hungry dinosaur as we traveled back in time. It is an attraction that added much character long before the invasion of the animated type now found here.

However disappointing the lack of ancient creatures might have been for Walt Disney World's dinosaur loving guests, the following three parks on the property contained more creatures per square inch than any other Disney place in the world.

With the creation of Epcot Center, Disney Imagineers took on a new philosophical approach in addition to embracing a new design aesthetic. The emphasis here would be on "edutainment", a Disney term coined to combine education and entertainment in a brand new dimension. Did they ever!
Here, guests would be introduced to exciting concepts in science and technology at Future World and explore nations of the globe at World Showcase.


Exxon's Universe of Energy pavilion would not only house a crew of its own primeval creatures, it would also introduce one of the most unique ride systems found in any Disney park. Long before the trackless vehicles of Tokyo Disneyland's Pooh's Hunny Hunt, stageful of guests traveled in cars guided by a single thin wire through the showrooms and its highlight, an all-too-close but ultimately safe encounter with frightful prehistoric animals.


The solar panels on the top of Energy's building help fuel the attraction, but unfortunately they also create a rather boring marque to what is a thrilling and informative evolutionary-based fantasy adventure.


In 1996, the pavilion was retooled as Ellen's Energy Adventure in an attempt to modernize it and draw in the crowds. Instead, using contemporary celebrities only dated the attraction, instantly creating a timestamp upon it. Ellen DeGeneres, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Bill Nye (the Science Guy) added a bit of fun to the proceedings but also downgraded the high capacity attraction from a must-see to an also ran. In 2004, the attraction became sponsorless when Exxon/Mobil denied renewal of its contract.  Closing for good in August of 2017, the building will soon house a rollercoaster attraction based on Guardians of the Galaxy. Will a dinosaur make a cameo appearance?

Disney-MGM Studios / Disney's Hollywood Studios


Three decades of Gertie.

The Studios is where the older cousin to California Adventure's Dinosaur Jack makes her home. At Echo Lake, Dinosaur Gertie makes her presence known in a big, cool way. She is an eye catching location for "Ice Creams of Distinction". In a park that plays tribute to the art of film making, Gertie herself is a tribute to a 1914 animated film by Winsor McCay.

Note the three photos above. They were all taken by me. The top one in 1989, the middle in 2009, and the bottom in 2019. Each depicts background elements uniquely representing the emphasis of the Disney management at the time- the bottom photo shows the crassly out of place Sorcerer's Hat pin show as park centerpiece; the previous photo displaying appropriately in theme buildings and design elements.


Disney's Animal KingdomThe mother load for dinosaur hunters is found in Disney's fourth Florida park. At Disney's Animal Kingdom, an entire land and not just one or two attractions is devoted to the animals we love. The park's logo and signage reinforce the important role these animals play in the creation and execution of the realm. In fact, there are so many dinosaurs to be found here at Animal Kingdom, my photos below only capture a small minority of what is to be found.


Appropriately so, the OldenGate Bridge is the portal through which we pass to enter this impressive tribute to all things prehistoric. Attractions, shops, and restaurants all embrace the theme in a quicky, playful way.


The large play area, known as The Boneyard, is nearby, full of activities for those younger kids who may enjoy a bit of a break from the queues Disney parks are known for! The playful aspect of the area continues, and as you can see below, even the corporate sponsors get in on the fun!



The area is not all fun and games, however. Dinoland U.S.A. recreates the roadside attractions of an American era mostly extinct itself. At opening, this area of the park was based primarily on the idea of an extensive scientific dig begun by a local university. A prominent research laboratory and museum were built right next to the on site student dormatories and mess halls.


Dubbed the Dino Institute, its motto is "Exploration, Excavation, Exultation"- and this is also the area's mission statement and descriptor. Dinoland is meant to be fun! And it is, but it also includes some fairly serious elements in the presentation.

In fact, a casting of Dinosaur Sue, above- from the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago- graces the pathway to the land's tentpole attraction. According to many scientists in the field, Sue is the largest and most complete discovery of a Tyrannosaurus Rex ever found. Just the fact that the Walt Disney Company was able to secure such a piece tells us of its prominence in society and its influence in being master storytellers. And what an exciting story they tell with its time travel journey!


Countdown to Extinction, now renamed the generic Dinosaur to capture some interest based on the 2000 Disney movie of the same name, takes guests on an unauthorized adventure back in time to capture a dinosaur of significance.


Signage up front gives guests a very small idea of the intensity of this attraction. Based on the wildly popular ride vehicle used in Disneyland's Indiana Jones Adventure, your "time rover" brings the brave up close and personal with a wide variety of prehistoric creatures.

Situated inside the museum are displays and models of creatures we will encounter once traveling through time. Everything looks fairly calm to the eye- that is until the lighting changes, and visitors get a glimpse of the Disney's fictional bad guy. The carnataurus we will encounter is almost beyond description. Even in its skeletal form, the creature is huge and menacing.

At this Imagineering masterpiece, the concept of "edutainment" is played to the hilt, and with an evolution versus creation slant at its core. It starts at the entrance and ends at the exit. Here's the theory and the story: A great meteor shower will bring the end of the dinosaur era. It makes for a great premise (and climax!) for the attraction, but it discounts the idea of a great flood, which many creation believing scientists have reason to believe actually did the deed.

No matter, Countdown/Dinosaur rocks hard, really hard, providing the most intense experience in any Disney theme park! It is loud, dark, and rough. The final meeting with the flesh eating monster chasing us moves the experience far beyond the mild sightseeing tour found on Epcot's Universe of Energy or Disneyland's Primeval World.
Above photo copyright The Walt Disney Company

Who would have thought we would actually look forward to being killed by the meteor shower! The entire attraction from start to finish is so intense that after so many chase scenes, the final carnotaurus confrontation is ultimately a relief, signaling the return to the station.



What could have been!

Countdown could have been much higher on the fright factor. A chance meeting with a group of highly irritated raptors was once on tap, above, and it was also once envisioned as a walking tour as well, (seen below).

As mentioned earlier, the attraction's layout mirrors Indy's adventure. In place of the chamber of Mara and a fiery welcome, here riders would have been greeted by a curious brontosaurus on one side of the rickety bridge and a hungry creature on the other!

Regardless of the final design choices, this premier attraction at Dinoland U.S.A. gives dinosaur hunters more than they bargained for! It is not only frightening to us but to others as well. Countdown to Extinction/ Dinosaur is also well advertised artillery that takes a big bite out of Universal's Islands of Adventure and its Jurassic Park experience.

Also at park opening were the Discovery River Boats- which included a cruise by this iguanodon. He (she?) soon became extinct as the cruise was not popular with guests. Why? It was meant as transportation, but visitors expected a full blown adventure akin to the Jungle Cruise.

Initially pleasing to the eye, Dinoland U.S.A. unfortunately has a split personality. One half of the acreage is very much a more realistic treatment of the theme, while the other is the quirky carnival titled Chester and Hester's Dinorama. The concept art shown above is pretty to view but the actual final result brings little to the table.


Midway games, a spinner ride eerily reminiscent of Fantasyland's Dumbo, and a small spinning coaster bring up the attraction count for the park making it Disney's quick answer to complaints about Animal Kingdom being a half day experience. Triceratop Spin and Primeval Whirl (a name that's a pun but also a tribute to Disneyland) round out the carnival atmosphere and games.



Lame Dumbo remake is not a winner.
Lucky the Dinosaur in 2003. Getty Images.

Chester and Hester's Dinorama did have one redeeming factor: it was the temporary home of Lucky the Dinosaur, a free roaming animatronic that wandered the park with the help of his handler. Unfortunately, after a tour of California Adventure, this charming fellow was shipped off to Hong Kong to open the minimally built park.

Whether you view this addition as poorly deisgned or something to be viewed lovingly with tongue firmly in cheek, one thing is certain: Chester and Hester's Dinorama brings highly colorful- and kid friendly- dinosaurs into Disney's Animal Kingdom.


Some of the dinosaurs planned for the Animal Kingdom were extinct before birth! Initial plans for the park included the Excavator coaster. It can clearly be seen in place at the top left corner of the above concept art for The Boneyard.


It is hard to tell whether this attraction would be a fairly unthemed coaster or one that just took some design elements from Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. The piece directly above seems like a unique take on the dinosaur concept, but the one above that seems like a descendant of the final portion of the "Wildest Ride in the Wilderness". Perhaps more art will surface one day and give clues to what could have been.


All said, Disney's Animal Kingdom provides the most dinosaur encounters on any Disney property- and with the most variety. However, there is still one more Florida location where dinosaurs have a story to tell.


Downtown Disney


Corporate cousin of the once popular Rain Forest Cafe chain of resturants, the T-Rex Cafe arrived at Downtown Disney as the most recent dino addition to Walt Disney World.



My apologies to losing the name of the photographer who took the amazing shot above, but here is just one case where the artist's illustrations do not do justice to the end result. Beautiful!

Disney dino hunters know that North America is not the only place to find these enormous beasts. Let's stop at Tokyo Disneyland as the first international hunting ground...

Tokyo Disneyland

Given that the first Asian Disney park is almost a piecemeal reproduction of its American sisters, it should come as no surprise that the dinosaurs at Tokyo Disneyland are found at the same attractions.


Here, the Western River Railroad departs only from Adventureland but still concludes with a journey through the Primeval World. And yes, the dino bone tunnel found at Big Thunder Mountain Railroad shows up here in Japan as well.

Tokyo Disney Sea



Surprisingly, from what I can find, no dinosaurs currently show up at the elegant Tokyo Disney Sea. Although Rex from Toy Story Midway Mania (above) will soon be taking up residence here, it is rather amazing that the beloved creatures do not make an appearance anywhere in the park.

Hong Kong Disneyland

Lucky the Dinosaur was one of the must see attractions at Hong Kong Disneyland in September 2005. Good thing, as this first Chinese park debuted with the fewest number of attractions ever found in a Magic Kingdom styled park since Disneyland itself. The first photo shows Lucky at the D23 convention, the second in an illustration.


Coming soon will be Rex, the plastic toy, who will make his appearance at the park's Toy Story Playland. He'll be more of a mascot than in an actual attraction, but none the less, he'll be present soon.


A planned roller coaster for the park's massive Adventureland never saw daylight. Instead this seeming combination of an off the shelf coaster with themed elements from Countdown to Extinction may surface in the future at another Disney park. Nothing ever really is wasted at Imagineering.

Disneyland Paris


Aside from the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad connection, (and I do not clearly remember if the bones are there), the only dinosaur I could think of here in Paris' beautiful Disneyland is one that is extinct. In the park's long gone but never forgotten Visionarium, our journey quickly takes us back in time. We encounter our dinosaur ever so briefly but then off we go again.

Walt Disney Studios Paris
Here at the Studios, this lackluster park does have one claim to fame: it is the only Disney park that represents the cult favorite Dinotopia.
The two photos above, courtesy Photomagique, display show elements from the Disney television series. Dinosaurs aside, the studio tram tour lacks the depth it needs as a centerpiece attraction for the park.
Toy Story Playland will appear in Paris, too, soon making its debut in the little park that hopes it can. Loveable Rex will be mostly a giant hood ornament of sorts as he sits around in an area that, much like Chester and Hester's Dinorama, will bring a few new lightly themed attractions to this needy second park.
Concluding our world tour and time travel, it is plain to see that dinosaurs of all shapes, sizes, colors and personalities have taken over Disney parks worldwide, much to the delight of guests young and old.

Drawings and schematics are highly guarded for Shanghai Disneyland and any other future plans for parks all over the world. Will the dinosaurs make the cut to the next series of additions? Who knows. Yet one thing is certain. Prehistoric creatures of all sorts draw an audience. It is a fact Walt himself knew well. Be it in film or at the parks, Disney will continue to include our prehistoric friends whenever a great concept comes along.

(Concept art copyright The Walt Disney Company. Most photos copyright Mark Taft.)